Posts by salsa girl

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Worst Night of the Year

by Quendi in

well, it's that time of year again.

the memorial season is upon us and jws the world over are getting ready for the celebration which this year falls on 17 april.

for the first time since 1975, yours truly will not attend and i couldn't be happier.

I attended the Memorial as a Bible Study and my study teacher was all over me like a rash cos I was dressed up to the nines! I really did look like a Jehovah's Witness which I guess went down really well with them. I did notice my study teacher's mouth turn down with total disgust when a young girl walked in wearing a pair of skin tight jeans though!

Alfred, I myself can't help but wonder about this ritual. It is all so bizarre! It's clearly not an acceptance of Christ, but a total rejection of him which I also find really creepy.

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A lightning fast POLL: Two questions about CONVERSION

by Terry in

1. were you yourself converted from a religion other than jw to becoming a jw by door to door work?.

2.did you succeed in converting somebody in your own door to door work causing them to change religions to the point of baptism?.

quick answers, please.. .

salsa girl

1. No. I stopped the bible study.

2. No. I never went door-to-door.

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The way eye see it

by bobld in

the wbts is wrong on j.c. 2nd coming.re 1:7 says every eye will see j.c. not just a few j.w.it also says those who pierced him.i believe this applies to those who hurt j.c. by not believing in him.so he did not come in 1914 and start his rulership.also there is no evidence by what we see.earthquakes,famine,sickness,death,floods, diseases by these this is not a righteous rulership.. b.

salsa girl

Hi bobld!

I also disagree with the WBTS teaching about Jesus Christ coming back to establish his Kingdom in 1914! Anyone who believes that is crazy! However, I disagree with you in regards to Rev 1:7 where you believe that those that pierced Jesus are ALL who did not believe in him. I believe myself that this is mentioned in relation to Mathew 24 where Jesus clearly states in verse 30 that 'they will see the son of man coming on the clouds'. What Jesus does in verse 34 in make it very clear that his return is something that will be witnessed by 'THIS GENERATION' ie, the one that is with him at that time. This would include the ones that pierced his side. Those present at his death would also be part of the generation that was with him at that time. If that is the case, then that would mean that we would have to re-assess our understanding of the meaning of 'every eye shall see him'. Is it not possible that this could be a figure of speech that Jesus is using in order to describe his return in another way that we have completely misunderstood? You see, if Jesus promised the generation that was with him that they would see his return, then logically speaking, Jesus would have been pointing to something that would have happened almost immediately following his death and resurrection. The only thing that did happen after his resurrection was the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on his people!/

Hope I don't cause any offense with my views. I'm just throwing out a few ideas here!

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Another persecuted member of the 'Kingdom' in London?

by AK - Jeff in

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/aleqm5hdyel48clnmvdfdyyxc-tirraofg?docid=b17527021300652129a00.

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salsa girl

Believe it or not, I actually had the misfortune to live 3 roads away from this nutjob at one point! It really makes my blood run cold to think that I lived so close to this psycopath.

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Stopping my bible study with the JW's

by salsa girl in

this is my first post after lurking for months.

hopefully i won't make any mistakes while typing and trying to post this so please bear with me!.

i had a bible study with jehovah's witnesses and i stopped the studies with them a couple of years back.

salsa girl

Hi everyone!

Once again, thank you for all your comments! One thing I would just like to make clear is that I'm not silly enough to expect that one post by me is going to lead to a mass exodus of Jehovah's Witnesses from the org just because I was able get out before I ever really got in! I was really thinking of others like me who are currently studying with JW's and who may well end up on this board because they are having doubts about it all for whatever reasons.

In relation to what I mentioned regarding 'materialism', I appreciate that there may well be people who are jealous of others who have more which is not nice. However, my personal circumstances did not allow for me to be able to work and what I found so offensive were Jehovahs Witnesses who thought that they had some sort of God given right to make mention of the fact that I did not have much and actually have the audacity to compare my circumstances with theirs with one smarmy git even suggesting that in his opinion, I must be envious of all his worldly goods!! (Yes, someone really did have the nerve to say this to me!) I certainly don't begrudge anyone who works really hard to get the things they want in life.

I stopped studying with Jehovah's Witnesses BEFORE I went up on the internet. I only started to research the org AFTER I left. This board has really helped me to understand that my instincts about the people and the teachings were spot on. It is only through reading about the experiences of others here that I realised that I wasn't crazy to feel the way that I ended up feeling about it all. I know one thing after reading all stories here, NOTHING could ever persuade me to go back because IT IS NOT THE TRUTH!

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Stopping my bible study with the JW's

by salsa girl in

this is my first post after lurking for months.

hopefully i won't make any mistakes while typing and trying to post this so please bear with me!.

i had a bible study with jehovah's witnesses and i stopped the studies with them a couple of years back.

salsa girl

Hi Mouthy!!

Thank you. Yes, I consider myself to have had a very lucky escape! Thank God I never had any close family members in it! It is STAGGERING to read accounts of people on this board who are literally being held hostage to this organisation because they can't bear to lose contact with their loved ones. I feel so sad for them.

LOL!! Yes, I was born and raised in South London!

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Stopping my bible study with the JW's

by salsa girl in

this is my first post after lurking for months.

hopefully i won't make any mistakes while typing and trying to post this so please bear with me!.

i had a bible study with jehovah's witnesses and i stopped the studies with them a couple of years back.

salsa girl

Thank you to all for welcoming me!

I am really glad that my story can be of encouragement to people. I guess you could say that I have a certain kind of instinct or sixth sense but whatever it is, if the feeling is persistant, then I won't go against it and I just couldn't shake it off where the Witnesses are concerned. I was already able to see that it was all very cliquey and figured that potentially, I could end up being very, very isolated within that organisation. It was almost like being a member of the communist party. My South London mentality kicked in (self-preservation!) and I felt I needed to get out as fast as possible which is what I did relatively unscathed compared to some of the poor people who's stories I've read here!

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Stopping my bible study with the JW's

by salsa girl in

this is my first post after lurking for months.

hopefully i won't make any mistakes while typing and trying to post this so please bear with me!.

i had a bible study with jehovah's witnesses and i stopped the studies with them a couple of years back.

salsa girl

Hello to everyone. This is my first post after lurking for months. Hopefully I won't make any mistakes while typing and trying to post this so please bear with me!

I had a bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses and I stopped the studies with them a couple of years back. I began to develop severe reservations about them and I just could NOT get rid of a persistant uncomfortable feeling about how the whole thing operates. I realised within a very short space of time that everything was based heavily on appearances, eg, how things look, how nicely people dress, who owns their own home, who drives a flash car etc and that there was little encouragement or support for anyone who does not fit into the married with 2/3 kids bracket. Vulnerable people do not seem to count in this organisation.

On one occasion, I openly said to a Witness on the street that I felt that the people are materialistic. This woman got my name from the cab driver who took me to my destination and reported me to her elders and I was questioned by my bible study teacher. Later on at one of their conventions, I was introduced to the elders that I was reported to. This is when I first realised that you cannot expect to have any kind of voice within this org and that to openly express any doubts or even mildly critical observations would bring me under close scrutiny! Actually, it is only through me reading the experiences on this web-site that I have put two-and two together and realised that this is the practice that is known as 'marking'. It felt like everything about me was being watched.

In short, I felt that the people were patronising, materialistic and extremely judgemental and that the Kingdom Halls are breeding grounds for gossip and slander and I felt I needed to trust my gut instinct and put a stop to the studies which I eventually did.

The whole experience with them left me feeling disturbed and I began to wonder if I was the only person who felt as if the whole 'loving' image that they try to promote is actually not as 'loving' as it all seems which is why I began to read this forum amongst others and it has blown me away to see that others have ended up having to leave for EXACTLY the same reasons and often at great personal cost to them.

Anyway, I hope I didn't ramble on too much. I just wanted to vent my feelings about this so-called 'Christian' organization because I think they are really dangerous.

Thank you for listening to me!